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Post by Jeppers on Dec 4, 2018 13:03:05 GMT -5
My suggestion of only keeping 3 players would have fixed this issue for the future in some aspects.
But this is a mess thats for sure.
I will brainstorm this in the future months,but its a mess.
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Post by steelers1954 on Dec 4, 2018 13:03:37 GMT -5
For instance...Aaron Rodgers. Is he a 7th round pick? No,,,But is he a 1st or 2nd ?? I say no,and Im sure theres going to be some who disagree. That's why we are having this discussion, we can come to a middle ground that everybody can live with..
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Post by packdog on Dec 4, 2018 13:12:28 GMT -5
i would still prefer to just make guys go into the draft pool after two years (keeping all the values right now for 2019). t Would that mean I wouldn't be able to trade M.Gordon after this season and that I'd have to drop him back into the pool. if he ends up red and you have to then yes. just a way to replenish the pool and give the struggling teams a chance to actually get better. as it stands now only one or two players are actually worth a 1st every year so unless you have the top pick or two you can be fairly screwed if you don't have a superstar or three on the discount round prices. in the long run it would allow more parity. though if people really want to be able to trade top tier players like that after two years i would suggest altering the value otherwise guys on the cheap will be passed around like cheap whores their whole career. so maybe if not released after two, and to maybe avoid the complications of trying to asses revaluation, maybe they inherit a 1st round tag if someone wants to trade for them. if no one wants that they get thrown back. still could create super teams cause no one will mind trading for multiple 1st round caliber guys at the cost of 2nd-4ths but it would be better. i am just throwing suggestions out there
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Post by Jeppers on Dec 4, 2018 13:21:27 GMT -5
otherwise guys on the cheap will be passed around like cheap whores their whole career
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Post by steelers1954 on Dec 4, 2018 13:35:43 GMT -5
Well it looks like I will most likely be drafting from the 5th spot( my players are dropping like fly's) and if I can't trade M.Gordon 2nd & T.Hill 8th then that would put me at a huge disadvantage. I don't have any other top tier players left on my roster. Gordon at 2 isn't bad but I could see Hill at 8th would have to be revalued before trading.
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Post by Doc on Dec 4, 2018 13:44:41 GMT -5
It's good that we're talking about this again now. Some good ideas flowing, although each has its own set of potential issues. Nevertheless, keep the ideas flowing.
Maybe we can find ways to combine a few ideas, or others will have ideas to improve potential flaws of some others.
I'll get back to this SOON after I have time to think it through better.
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Post by Doc on Dec 4, 2018 19:46:27 GMT -5
If going to adjust player values, I'd say the fairest way to do so for parity would be this:
When a player is in the red, OR if someone decides to trade player before in the red, said value of player should be adjusted accordingly before trade is made.
This way, people still get to be rewarded with good value on drafting skills while players are still on their team, and also discourages anyone from trying to take advantage of that rule by trading away said player early.
This could eliminate almost all of the parity issues, maybe even starting as early as this offseason going into next. Just a thought I think we should seriously consider.
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Post by Doc on Dec 5, 2018 13:38:41 GMT -5
If going to adjust player values, I'd say the fairest way to do so for parity would be this: When a player is in the red, OR if someone decides to trade player before in the red, said value of player should be adjusted accordingly before trade is made. This way, people still get to be rewarded with good value on drafting skills while players are still on their team, and also discourages anyone from trying to take advantage of that rule by trading away said player early. This could eliminate almost all of the parity issues, maybe even starting as early as this offseason going into next. Just a thought I think we should seriously consider. Can I please get some feedback on my idea? I honestly think this makes a lot of sense, is fair, and maybe the least complicated way to ultimately bring parity to the league. DirtyBird, indydave, craig440, @njc71, divebitch, danb6177, packdog, Jeppers, steelers1954
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Post by Jeppers on Dec 5, 2018 15:42:10 GMT -5
Doc I dont really know. Hell I cant even keep Amari Cooper ever looks like.
I got a million leaves in the yard and my back feels like a tractor rolled over it and I cant even think striaght and Im freaking hungry and would like some deer steaks and gravy but I know damn well the old lady aint gonna wanna fixed it.
Shit. Im tired.
I have to get back with ya
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Post by danb6177 on Dec 5, 2018 17:54:07 GMT -5
If going to adjust player values, I'd say the fairest way to do so for parity would be this: When a player is in the red, OR if someone decides to trade player before in the red, said value of player should be adjusted accordingly before trade is made. This way, people still get to be rewarded with good value on drafting skills while players are still on their team, and also discourages anyone from trying to take advantage of that rule by trading away said player early. This could eliminate almost all of the parity issues, maybe even starting as early as this offseason going into next. Just a thought I think we should seriously consider. Can I please get some feedback on my idea? I honestly think this makes a lot of sense, is fair, and maybe the least complicated way to ultimately bring parity to the league. DirtyBird, indydave, craig440, @njc71, divebitch, danb6177, packdog, Jeppers, steelers1954I’m probably confused. Aren’t we gonna change everyone value right up front? And then make trades.
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Post by Doc on Dec 5, 2018 18:55:51 GMT -5
I’m probably confused. Aren’t we gonna change everyone value right up front? And then make trades. Not according to my plan. Carefully read it over again, and let me know what you think.
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Post by danb6177 on Dec 5, 2018 20:16:34 GMT -5
I’m probably confused. Aren’t we gonna change everyone value right up front? And then make trades. Not according to my plan. Carefully read it over again, and let me know what you think. Looks like what your saying is only traded players get evaluated?
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Post by steelers1954 on Dec 5, 2018 20:35:28 GMT -5
Looks like what your saying is only traded players get evaluated? Yes the players coming up to be dropped or trade will get evaluated. Those who made trades last off season will be able to keep the present value they have and they will be adjusted when they are traded or dropped.
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Post by steelers1954 on Dec 5, 2018 20:41:47 GMT -5
Overall your idea looks good an one to consider. discourages anyone from trying to take advantage of that rule by trading away said player early. If you decide to trade a player before his time is up then they will have to be adjusted just like those who have to be traded or dropped so that nobody gets an advantage..
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Post by danb6177 on Dec 5, 2018 21:33:08 GMT -5
Overall your idea looks good an one to consider. discourages anyone from trying to take advantage of that rule by trading away said player early. If you decide to trade a player before his time is up then they will have to be adjusted just like those who have to be traded or dropped so that nobody gets an advantage.. So either way in 2 season everyone will be evaluated then
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