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Post by Miss Lacy on Jul 12, 2016 23:55:02 GMT -5
OK--- I admit it, I'm drunk.
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Post by Doc on Jul 13, 2016 0:03:50 GMT -5
OK--- I it admit, I'm drunk. Haha....I ABSOLUTELY love Jesus too. You had better stick around this time, at least we all hope. Great fantasy football player, great poster overall, and great person. You hit the trifecta!!!
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Post by Miss Lacy on Jul 13, 2016 0:13:38 GMT -5
Awwwww--- you're making me blush, my dear.
Ok-- perhaps it's just the wine making me flush.
But, either way--- *sloppy kisses*
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Post by Doc on Jul 13, 2016 1:13:14 GMT -5
Awwwww--- you're making me blush, my dear. Ok-- perhaps it's just the wine making me flush. But, either way--- *sloppy kisses*
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Post by packdog on Jul 13, 2016 7:53:57 GMT -5
most people don't know this but in ancient times people often drank wine predominantly because the sources of water could be quite deadly
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Post by divebitch on Jul 13, 2016 8:38:48 GMT -5
most people don't know this but in ancient times people often drank wine predominantly because the sources of water could be quite deadly That's why I drink wine - and ya gotta stay hydrated.
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Post by dstep05 on Jul 19, 2016 13:35:31 GMT -5
Wine is fine, but liquor is quicker... On the note of religious beliefs... don't even get me start.... I was raised LDS (explains a LOT, I know... total crock of shit, btw) If explored a large number of religious ideas and principles, and I've come to the conclusion that they're all hype and illusion designed to control gullible humans. The ideals are cool, karma, the golden rule, honesty, charity, etc....but nobody truly whole heatedly practices these, so it's a crock... Let's just all be good and kind to the extent we can, harass Eddie as often as possible, and make our little corner of the world a little better.... Now, about that liquor.. .
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Post by Doc on Jul 19, 2016 15:46:49 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2016 16:08:33 GMT -5
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Post by packdog on Jul 19, 2016 16:20:23 GMT -5
Wine is fine, but liquor is quicker... On the note of religious beliefs... don't even get me start.... I was raised LDS (explains a LOT, I know... total crock of shit, btw) If explored a large number of religious ideas and principles, and I've come to the conclusion that they're all hype and illusion designed to control gullible humans. The ideals are cool, karma, the golden rule, honesty, charity, etc....but nobody truly whole heatedly practices these, so it's a crock... Let's just all be good and kind to the extent we can, harass Eddie as often as possible, and make our little corner of the world a little better.... Now, about that liquor.. . i agree on the bs of the lds. i was kinda raised catholic and it has it's fair share. still, this part..."but nobody truly whole heatedly practices these" is one of the reasons i came back to religion and Christianity. didn't stop me from sometimes harassing you and eddie though. and i can see why it leaves many jaded. it's in our nature. that's a truth of the Word and some can separate it from organized religion. i wouldn't separate it from the Word though on the issue of control...it can abused in religious form but many were not designed that way. modern humans often neglect the reason humanity came up with their various beliefs. something happened that we know defies human understanding. logically, for us, the concept of creation is impossible. something coming from nothing defies every possible human notion of existence. even if you go with the big bang you still just set up another religious tenet with the conundrum of cause. you have to give it faith to give it credence. this confounded the ancients and especially the famous Greek philosophers. it continues to confound modern physicists and mathematicians as they search the cosmos and quantum realms for answers to the impossible. i think we already have it "Let's just all be good and kind to the extent we can, harass Eddie as often as possible, and make our little corner of the world a little better...." here, here. the Word makes that easier in my mind. though i think i'll just harass eddie with resounding victories in his fantasy league from now on. if i get you started i can harass you about these kinds of topics but i grew into a lightweight over the years so no more drunken vitriolic diatribes from me. who knows though. maybe i bust out the whiskey and bud lights one night and get a bit overzealous
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2016 20:00:22 GMT -5
I've had some pretty heated arguments with many people on NFLFF regarding religion, and some of the biggest ones were with people who are here as well... Over the years though, I've been trying to tone down my condemnation of religion though. Here is what I ultimately think about it. First, regardless of what Craig tells everyone, I accept that A god could exist, I just haven't seen any evidence for one, and I am very certain that many of the gods out there could not possibly exist. But aside from that religion is humanity's attempt to understand the world around us when we don't have concrete evidence or answers. I think religion is a magnifier for people. People who are good and want to do good things will use their religion to do those things, and the communities coming together can achieve some great things as a result. By the same token, people who want to do bad things find a way to use religion to do that too, and the possibility to do far more harm exists as a result. Religion isn't bad or good, it's just a tool like a gun. A gun can be used to hunt for food and save lives, or it can be used to murder large numbers of people.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2016 20:11:18 GMT -5
I've had some pretty heated arguments with many people on NFLFF regarding religion, and some of the biggest ones were with people who are here as well... Over the years though, I've been trying to tone down my condemnation of religion though. Here is what I ultimately think about it. First, regardless of what Craig tells everyone, I accept that A god could exist, I just haven't seen any evidence for one, and I am very certain that many of the gods out there could not possibly exist. But aside from that religion is humanity's attempt to understand the world around us when we don't have concrete evidence or answers. I think religion is a magnifier for people. People who are good and want to do good things will use their religion to do those things, and the communities coming together can achieve some great things as a result. By the same token, people who want to do bad things find a way to use religion to do that too, and the possibility to do far more harm exists as a result. Religion isn't bad or good, it's just a tool like a gun. A gun can be used to hunt for food and save lives, or it can be used to murder large numbers of people. Why do you even say that. I don't tell anyone what you think. You are the one who announces you are Atheist. What you said in that sentence is you are not an Atheist, you are agnostic. You are the one who claims to be Atheist. I told no one anything of the sort. Atheist......http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/atheist
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2016 20:29:36 GMT -5
I've had some pretty heated arguments with many people on NFLFF regarding religion, and some of the biggest ones were with people who are here as well... Over the years though, I've been trying to tone down my condemnation of religion though. Here is what I ultimately think about it. First, regardless of what Craig tells everyone, I accept that A god could exist, I just haven't seen any evidence for one, and I am very certain that many of the gods out there could not possibly exist. But aside from that religion is humanity's attempt to understand the world around us when we don't have concrete evidence or answers. I think religion is a magnifier for people. People who are good and want to do good things will use their religion to do those things, and the communities coming together can achieve some great things as a result. By the same token, people who want to do bad things find a way to use religion to do that too, and the possibility to do far more harm exists as a result. Religion isn't bad or good, it's just a tool like a gun. A gun can be used to hunt for food and save lives, or it can be used to murder large numbers of people. Why do you even say that. I don't tell anyone what you think. You are the one who announces you are Atheist. What you said in that sentence is you are not an Atheist, you are agnostic. You are the one who claims to be Atheist. I told no one anything of the sort. Atheist......http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/atheist I can't find where you said it, but I read a post here before I joined of you stating that I was one of those athiests who refuses to accept the possibility of a god. Not sure what thread it was in, but you singled me out as such, and that's not true. I'm an agnostic athiest. Theist means belief in a god/deity. Atheist is lack of belief in a god/diety. Gnosticism is a claim of knowing, so: Gnostic means to claim to know. Agnostic means to not claim to know. Atheist and agnostic are two mutually exclusives things and a person can be both. You can be one of four things: Gnostic theist: believe in God(s) and claim to know that you're absolutely correct. Agnostic theist: believe in God(s) but don't claim to have absolute proof. Gnostic atheist: lack belief in any gods and claim to know that you're absolutely correct. Agnostic atheist: lack belief in any gods but don't claim to have absolute proof. In my opinion, Gnosticism is the biggest problem... That's what inspires fundamentalism on both sides of the aisle. If everyone just admitted that we don't know for sure, since it's a belief, not proven fact, then the crazies on each side might tone things down a bit (or a lot).
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2016 20:51:09 GMT -5
okay so you are an agnostic Atheist. Sorry, I don't even know what Gnosticism is, but I will read your post after I do the after mock stuff. But here is what you said in your welcome thing. So, yeah I am a liberal and yeah I am an atheist, and yeah I am probably going to disagree about a lot of things... But you learn a lot more from discussing things with people you don't agree with. So I just took you at your saying you are an Atheist. I will be more careful next time.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2016 21:00:06 GMT -5
I just looked up agnostic atheist. And yes there is a definition. But to me it is a made up point of view that makes no sense. Atheist believe that God does not exist. Agnostics believe they do not know. How can you be both? But I guess things are different now. When I went to school we learned what both atheist and agnostic meant. But we also learned males were males and females were females. So ya I guess you can be both agnostic/atheist if that is the new math. I get it. I'm just an old white fart who needs to die. I'm being sarcastic at the end there ya know.
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