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Post by divebitch on Oct 29, 2018 11:12:03 GMT -5
I predicted this since the show Hard Knocks. Guy's an idiot. That team should've been 5 - 3. Would've been no worse than 4 - 4 if Baker Mayfield had been groomed to start in the first place.
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Post by Doc on Oct 29, 2018 11:21:36 GMT -5
I predicted this since the show Hard Knocks. Guy's an idiot. That team should've been 5 - 3. Would've been no worse than 4 - 4 if Baker Mayfield had been groomed to start in the first place. Haha. You literally just beat me posting this by 8 minutes. lol It's about time they got rid of that guy.
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Post by divebitch on Oct 29, 2018 11:49:43 GMT -5
I predicted this since the show Hard Knocks. Guy's an idiot. That team should've been 5 - 3. Would've been no worse than 4 - 4 if Baker Mayfield had been groomed to start in the first place. Haha. You literally just beat me posting this by 8 minutes. lol It's about time they got rid of that guy. That's a lot of time, 8 minutes. haha It's definitely long overdue. You could see on the show how arrogant he was. NFL Network suggested that he clashed with other coaches and/or front office - that it was his show, and that's that. After the fallout, which we're getting in droves now on the NFL Network, and probably a ton of other media, I'll bet he doesn't get another job. At least not as HC.
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Post by divebitch on Oct 29, 2018 12:16:21 GMT -5
Todd Haley (OC) just got fired as well, minutes ago.
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Post by Doc on Oct 29, 2018 15:36:10 GMT -5
Todd Haley (OC) just got fired as well, minutes ago. " style="max-width:100%;"] Well, if you're gonna clean house, you might as well clean house. They just got a new GM in December of last year, so he should be safe, at least for now. They've never had a GM last more than 2-3 years over the past 11. WTF? Whoever the hell has been in charge of hiring these GM's should be gone too, if not already. www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/cle/executives.htm
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Post by divebitch on Oct 29, 2018 19:14:53 GMT -5
Todd Haley (OC) just got fired as well, minutes ago. " style="max-width:100%;"] Well, if you're gonna clean house, you might as well clean house. They just got a new GM in December of last year, so he should be safe, at least for now. They've never had a GM last more than 2-3 years over the past 11. WTF? Whoever the hell has been in charge of hiring these GM's should be gone too, if not already. www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/cle/executives.htmThat's usually the owner. Or at least he has a huge say in it. Isn't Jerry Jones the owner and GM? Yeah, the Browns GM is apparently not the issue here. But TBH, not sure. Cuz I did watch every episode (there were only 5) of Hard Knocks, and he seemed pretty soft. ut it's hard to say. He is new, and as others have mentioned, it's a delicate balance dealing w/some of the strongest personalities in the 3-some of Jackson, Haley, and Williams. Now Gregg Williams is still DC and interim HC as well now. IMO, he's the most obnoxious soul-sucker of the 3. More ya think about it, it's gotta be, to some extent, an incompetent owner. Or he made some bad hiring decisions, and didn't know how to fix his own mistakes.
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Post by Doc on Oct 29, 2018 20:27:49 GMT -5
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Post by Jeppers on Oct 30, 2018 14:10:27 GMT -5
Did you know...
The last 4 Browns coaches have gotten fired after the second game with the Steelers.
Hahaha. Big Ben is a coach killer.
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Post by divebitch on Oct 31, 2018 6:31:29 GMT -5
Did you know... The last 4 Browns coaches have gotten fired after the second game with the Steelers. Hahaha. Big Ben is a coach killer. I thought it was more, like 6. At least that's what I vaguely recall seeing the graphic. Could be wrong, cuz that is really a lot. Well, 4 is a lot too. lol
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Post by steelers1954 on Nov 1, 2018 6:46:07 GMT -5
Todd Haley (OC) just got fired as well, Much of the blame has to go on H.Jackson for how bad the Browns have been but T.Haley sure didn't help Jackson either. He was a problem in Pittsburgh as well and not just with Ben, he also didn't get along that well with M.Tomlin.
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Post by divebitch on Nov 1, 2018 14:52:20 GMT -5
Todd Haley (OC) just got fired as well, Much of the blame has to go on H.Jackson for how bad the Browns have been but T.Haley sure didn't help Jackson either. He was a problem in Pittsburgh as well and not just with Ben, he also didn't get along that well with M.Tomlin. Well, it's no secret by now that both Hue & Todd are strong personalities. Hue is not volatile, but he is stubborn, and it was his way or the highway. Todd probably felt (as is my more ignorant (than his) inclination,) that at 36-3-1 (or whatever) Hue was in no position to hold steadfast to the usual losing ways. So he started ignoring Hue somewhat, and did it his own way. Insubordination if you will. in one of several defenses, Todd was handed over full reins since the beginning. The difference between Jackson and Tomlin seems this... 1) Tomlin is probably one of the 5 winningest current HCs in terms of W-L % (not counting newbs). IDK if they've had a losing season in his tenure. So Haley has picked up a solid body of coaching strategies that work. Tomlin may also let everyone knows who's boss, but his demeanor is totally different. He is usually smiling, laughing, listening. More importantly, being a far better coach (how could he not be?), doing things 'his way' is gonna make a lot of sense to everyone anyway.
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